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Quote denizfeneri Replybullet Posted: 20Feb2007 at 13:35
I think you have some mistakes about (-ya-)... this word may be using 10-15 different situation.and some of them are can not translate english...if you really curious about how to use -ya ...contact me I will try to help you ...:)

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Quote Angel&Devil Replybullet Posted: 21Feb2007 at 04:13
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I?think you have some mistakes about (-ya-)... this word may be using 10-15 different situation.and some of them are can not translate english...if you really curious about how to use -ya ...contact me?I will try to help you ...:)

Well, I think we all will be very curious to know the features of "ya" use
would you be so kind to share your knowledge with us?
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Quote denizfeneri Replybullet Posted: 21Feb2007 at 06:56
oh ok I can try but it very hard explain clear ..so I give examples and you can you can understand better I think so..at first you wrote somethings about ya...--------------------------------------------
Hi Lati. "Ya" is not a statement, it means "but, and, while"
Sen git ya ben daha sonra gelecegim - You go and I will come a little bit later
Bu kitabi okudum ya sen okumad?n - I read this book, but you didn't


but in a spoken language YA is often used like a interjection, emotion.
Nasil bileyim ya?! - How could I know?!!!
Hadi ya!! - Let's! Come on!!

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you all know that expression is very important about meaning.and this sh** word "ya"  uses alot of situation.sometimes to complain,sometimes strong emotion or wishes or support expression and make meanings imply  etc etc..so I think you can not learn all YA meanings I think so because you must have experiences to learn all meanings... but I can say summarize it uses informal ...I gave an example that  you  had wrote before...
 
nasil bileyim ya?- it is not equal "how could I know"..if he/she says "nasil bilebilirim ki" or "nasil bileyim" so it is equal " how could I know"..
 
"but nasil bileyim ya" ---> I think " how could you think that I know it"  So "ya" is change tha little bit different mean here as you can see...
 
I wish I could help you little more:)
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Quote Annnna Replybullet Posted: 21Feb2007 at 07:11
Thank you for the thorough explanation, denizfeneri!
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Quote Angel&Devil Replybullet Posted: 21Feb2007 at 09:46
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"but nasil bileyim ya" ---> I think " how could you think that?I know it"? So "ya" is change tha little bit different mean here as you can see...

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Interesting sure we have no ability to know all meanings and situations to use this word, only native speakers can catch the nuances. So, practice, practice and practice.
Thank you for explanation!
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Quote alyssa Replybullet Posted: 21Feb2007 at 10:17
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nasil bileyim ya?- it is not equal "how could I know"..if he/she says "nasil bilebilirim ki" or "nasil bileyim" so it is equal " how could I know"..
 
"but nasil bileyim ya" ---> I think " how could you think that I know it"  So "ya" is change tha little bit different mean here as you can see...
 
I wish I could help you little more:)


so - it is used a litle same way as a certain v-word in finnish "korso" language...  maybe some finnish members will understand...  ROFL
I'm a bitch, I'm a lover
I'm a child, I'm a mother
I'm a sinner, I'm a saint
I do not feel ashamed
I'm your health, I'm your dream
I'm nothing in between...
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Quote Aisha Replybullet Posted: 22Feb2007 at 03:16
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so - it is used a litle same way as a certain v-word in finnish "korso" language...  maybe some finnish members will understand...  ROFL
 
Hehe, I quess you are right alyssa. LOL Little words like "ya" in turkish are a bit difficult for us foreigners but in time we learn to use them, maybe not everytime in the right way though.
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Quote gotchaaa Replybullet Posted: 22Feb2007 at 11:57
if u want i can help to u in turkish ...
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Quote gotchaaa Replybullet Posted: 22Feb2007 at 11:58
hi if u want i can help to u in turkish
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Quote gotchaaa Replybullet Posted: 22Feb2007 at 11:59

if u asking ya in turkis meaning it means that:1 )yes 2) in suprise time using like get a suprise something

 

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Quote Angel&Devil Replybullet Posted: 01Mar2007 at 03:44
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if u asking ya in turkis meaning it means that:1 )yes 2) in suprise time using like get a suprise something


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whant about "he"? :)
always wondered about the meaning of "var ya"
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Quote Guests Replybullet Posted: 04Mar2007 at 19:07

more explanations about these usages,

YA:
a) it is not a word, it is a kind of exclamation which reflects your emotional or reactinoal mood. The sense of usage can be understood definitely only with the style of saying and in the context. And it's sense also varies according to your accentuation or saying expeditiously (like a quick "ya") or lenghty (like "yaaaaa"), though you can sometimes see both reactional and emotional mood in both short and long way of pronouncing.
Explanations can never be ebough, it can be comprehended only by practising and listening to those who use it.
 
Just some samples:   
 
- Ya sen deli misin?
- Are you crazy?
(the person who says this has generally a bit feverish mood)
 
- George should come here to solve the problem.
- Ya gelmezse?
- George'un sorunu t?zmek itin buraya gelmesi gerekiyor
- what if he doesn't?!!! (anxiety) 
 
- Dnn akşam Tarkan'ı caddede g?rdnm.
- Yaaaa! Ne yapıyordu?
- Yesterday evening, I saw Tarkan on the street.
- Really! What was he doing?
(excitement)
 
- Ondan ayrıldım.
- Yaaaa! tok nznldnm.
- I broke up with him.
- Really! I am so sorry
(to strengthen the sadness)
 
b) as a definitive usage, it is "either ... or (ya ... ya da)"
- Bu yaz tatil itin ya Mars'a ya da Satnrn'e gitmek istiyorum (some imaginationSmile
- This summer for holiday I want to go to either Mars or Saturn.
 
he:
a) it is rural and rude form of "evet" (you can more or less understand if a person is educated enough; or from city or village, taking his usage of "yes" as "evet" or "he" into account)
b) or just an exclamation like "ha!" (for example when you surprise)
 
var ya: word by word "it exists or there is!". But not quite like that in its usage, since "ya" gives it a slight difference. You use it generally at the begining of the sentence especially when you intend to do something decisively as a fact or found out about a fact from your estimations. When you say it, you generally consider what you are saying is a fact and "it exists". and only in spoken language.
 
- Var ya,  aslında bu adam yalan s?ylnyor.
- in fact (as you guess), this man is lying.
 
It is also possible to say it in middle of sentence:
 
- hani şu Tnrkte ?devi var ya, bence onu yapmayalım.
- you know (here "hani" is for reminding something) that Turkish homework (that exists as a factErmm seems weird in English Smile), as for me let's not make it.
 
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Quote Annnna Replybullet Posted: 05Mar2007 at 01:03
Wow, thanks for your post Patroos! I am amazed!
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Quote Guests Replybullet Posted: 05Mar2007 at 12:46
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Wow, thanks for your post Patroos! I am amazed!
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Quote Angel&Devil Replybullet Posted: 07Apr2007 at 15:30
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BRAVO! complete and irrefragable answer!
probably you are a teacher? at least have this talent
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Quote Guests Replybullet Posted: 07Apr2007 at 17:23
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 probably you are a teacher? at least have this talent
I may be considered a kind of teacher in fact Smile
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